Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

PrimalxConvoy

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Where did you check that led you to conclude LEBANON doesn't know from the risk of getting killed by terrorists or their own government?

Beirut had been known as "the Paris of the Middle East" until it was colonized and gutted by Palestinian and Iranian militias and hit with multiple rounds of civil wars. A Hezbollah arms depot blew up the port of Beirut in summer 2020. Hezbollah has been bombing Israel every single day since they joined the celebrations on Oct. 8th, including bombing a soccer field and killing 12 Israeli Arab kids which nobody in the world cared about because no Jews were involved. There have been easily 5 or 6 "major" rounds of conflict between Israel and Lebanon in the last 20 years when Hezbollah bombs Israel or kidnaps Israelis so the IDF blows up their neighborhood. Israel invaded and occupied Lebanon in the '80s. Lebanon invaded Israel in the '40s. The country has been a ruin for decades, they are all too aware of the risks.
Citation please.
 

Thylacine 2000

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Citation please.
Since you said you specifically looked for Iranian colonialism in Lebanon and couldn't find it, I'm legitimately willing to give a starting point:


As for Palestinian groups undermining Lebanon into civil war:



In general, citations are not needed for basic knowledge. When someone posts here "Israelis are used to the risk of terrorism and conflict but Lebanon knows nothing of such things" and I write a long paragraph summarizing 80 years of basic history showing otherwise, that's sufficient. Anyone involved in a truly good faith dialogue whose first response to a mention of a Lebanese Civil War is "What's that?" needs to take it upon themself to look it up.
 
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PrimalxConvoy

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Since you said you specifically looked for Iranian colonialism in Lebanon and couldn't find it, I'm legitimately willing to give a starting point:


As for Palestinian groups undermining Lebanon into civil war:



In general, citations are not needed for basic knowledge. When someone posts here "Israelis are used to the risk of terrorism and conflict but Lebanon knows nothing of such things" and I write a long paragraph summarizing 80 years of basic history showing otherwise, that's sufficient. Anyone involved in a truly good faith dialogue whose first response to a mention of a Lebanese Civil War is "What's that?" needs to take it upon themself to look it up.

Thanks for the info. However, I'm sorry, but the links you supplied didn't seem to mention anything about your claim that "Beirut...was colonized and gutted by Palestinian and Iranian militias..." .

Perhaps I've misread them?
 

Thylacine 2000

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Thanks for the info. However, I'm sorry, but the links you supplied didn't seem to mention anything about your claim that "Beirut...was colonized and gutted by Palestinian and Iranian militias..." .

Perhaps I've misread them?

Both articles are filled with examples of Iranian and Palestinian militias undermining Lebanon's governmental sovereignty and military authority, weakening the economy, actively killing Lebanese people to broaden their territorial control, and staging attacks from Lebanese soil that caused large and deadly conflicts with Israel. There is an entire section of the second link titled "Civil War," detailing how Palestinian militias caused it. I actually did start to copy-paste in here, and then when it hit a 6 paragraph text wall I stopped, it was going to wind up copy-pasting about 3/4ths of the first one and more than half of the second.

You recently posted the Wikipedia page about ALL OF LEBANON - everything! Parliament, language, economy, food, mountains and rivers - and thought that was a worthwhile use of a source, like you expected people to read it for the sake of one post in one thread. What you are now presented with are two specific articles all about Iranian and Palestinian militias using force to control Lebanese territory, society, and life, and the terrible destruction that has all caused. Try reading them again.
 
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PrimalxConvoy

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Both articles are filled with examples of Iranian and Palestinian militias undermining Lebanon's governmental sovereignty and military authority, weakening the economy, actively killing Lebanese people to broaden their territorial control, and staging attacks from Lebanese soil that caused large and deadly conflicts with Israel. There is an entire section of the second link titled "Civil War," detailing how Palestinian militias caused it. I actually did start to copy-paste in here, and then when it hit a 6 paragraph text wall I stopped, it was going to wind up copy-pasting about 3/4ths of the first one and more than half of the second.

You recently posted the Wikipedia page about ALL OF LEBANON - everything! Parliament, language, economy, food, mountains and rivers - and thought that was a worthwhile use of a source, like you expected people to read it for the sake of one post in one thread. What you are now presented with are two specific articles all about Iranian and Palestinian militias using force to control Lebanese territory, society, and life, and the terrible destruction that has all caused. Try reading them again.
Thank you for your explanation. However, regardless of that, it doesn't seem that your claim that Lebanon was actually "colonised" though. Perhaps you should have used another term?
 

Teufel

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Massive airstrike including bunker busters in Beirut targeting Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. So far neither Hezbollah or the IDF have officially confirmed his current status.

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Israel conducted an airstrike on Friday targeting Hezbollah's central headquarters in Beirut in an apparent attempt to kill the group's leadership.
Why it matters: This was the largest Israeli strike in Beirut since the 2006 war in Lebanon, and an Israeli source said the primary target was Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. The strike also hit residential buildings.

  • At least two people were killed and 76 wounded by the Israeli airstrikes in the southern suburbs of Beirut, Lebanon's health ministry said on Friday, adding it is a preliminary assessment of the casualties.
  • More than 700 people have been killed in Lebanon over the past 11 days of intense fighting between Israel and Hezbollah.
Driving the news: Israeli officials say senior Hezbollah officials were at the headquarters at the time of the attack. There has been no official response so far from Hezbollah on the attack or on Nasrallah's status. The Israeli source said the Israel Defense Forces did not yet have confirmation of whether he was hit.

IDF spokesperson Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari described the attack as a "precise strike on the central HQ of Hezbollah, which was intentionally built under residential buildings in Beirut in order to use them as human shields."
 


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