Misc. European politics

Anonymous X

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This isn’t good — Hungarian quasi-dictator Victor Orban has won another supermajority in last weekend’s election. This was with the opposition doing the unprecedented step of uniting as one bloc, everyone from the centre-left Socialists, Democrats and Greens to the right-wing JOBBIK. Even then, they did worse than last time. I fear that Hungary is now cemented as being a pseudo democracy like Russia.
 

Ironbite4

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If Putin's so wanting to reunite the band, why doesn't he just start with the members who are willing to rejoin.

Ironbite-like this guy.
 

wonko the sane?

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There's actually a hungarian youtuber I kinda follow named adam something, he's been posting about war and politics since russia invaded, but his thing is normally civic design and mass transit. Apparently orban does not hold the sway in the country as portrayed, it's largely just propaganda and jerry mandering. Literally the same playbook as putin.
 

Ungnome

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Wasn't part of the USSR, but it WAS a founding member of the Warsaw Pact and the USSR invaded Hungary in the 1950s to put an end to a democratic revolution in the country. It was, for many years, a puppet of Soviet Russia.
 

Ironbite4

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People are like "OH HE BARELY BEAT HER! LOOK AT THE NUMBERS! WE ARE DOOMED!" but I'm looking at those numbers and realize that yes, 40% of French are idiots but well, we knew this.

Ironbite-they've always been this dumb.
 

Wheelimus

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I'd be very happy if our far right could only muster 41% at the ballot box.
 

wonko the sane?

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Related news: when people in montreal were questioned about voting in frances elections (referring, of course, to the people whom were actually allowed to vote in it.) many of them were out NOT to vote for someone, but to vote against someone. A majority were out to prevent Le Pen from getting into office. And there was a LOT out voting. During the first round: the line to vote went around the building the vote was held in, which was the convention center and it actually takes up the entire block.
 

Nevermore

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Yeah, several of the other French presidential candidates who lost in the first round were asking their supporters to vote for Macron in the run-off just to prevent Le Pen.
 

Pocket

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It's honestly a miracle that any country without ranked-ballot voting both among the electorate and within the legislature itself has been able to maintain more than two functionally relevant parties for any length of time.
 

Anonymous X

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It's honestly a miracle that any country without ranked-ballot voting both among the electorate and within the legislature itself has been able to maintain more than two functionally relevant parties for any length of time.
I can’t think of a European country with ranked-ballot voting apart from Ireland (the Republic of). Most use proportional representation. France is a rare exception, using a British/American style “winner takes all” system, but different as they have two-round elections,
 

Pocket

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I wonder how many of them also favor secession. Can't reunify with a country that's not part of the UK while still being part of the UK, after all.
 


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